Dale, you crack me up comparing the Mt Whitney Main Trail to big wall climbing in Yosemite ...
The fact is, I didn't compare the Mt Whitney Main Trail to anything. I compared the widespread current and past use of wag bags to a simple emotional lie ("Nowhere ...") that I was careful to exactly quote. The response that drew is a complete misrepresentation of my post. Thanks for responding with a demonstration of another component of the problems with the presentation of the solar toilet issue on this site.
I'm one of the people who would like to see solar toilets on the Mt Whitney Main trail. I just believe that (whether as emotional utterances or sustained methods) falsehoods and distortions are tactics that do more harm than good. They have no positive contribution along any path that can lead to establishing functional solar toilets on the Mt Whitney Trail. Where the goal is to entertain the faithful, falsehoods and distortions are standard modern media practice. Where the goal is to achieve operational change, there will be no progress until falsehoods and distortions are eliminated. I'm not arguing against solar toilets. I'm arguing against the roadblocks that people keep insisting on building in the way.
Why doesn't anyone want to discuss what actions we need take now to get from where we actually are to where we want to go? Not entertaining enough? Too difficult? I'm not saying that I have confidence we'll get solar toilets if we try, but I'm sure no one on this site is working in that direction whether they think they are trying (or say they are trying) or not. But people like to read the posts and some seem to think that is justification enough.
Dale B. Dalrymple
