Originally Posted By: Steve C

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1. Nowhere else are people required to pack up their poop, and carry it in a backpack. When backpacking, that pack carries food, shelter and bedding. Nobody wants excrement mixed with that, and the idea that it is included in the pack -- well, it is disgusting to even me.
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It may be yucky but in times of reduced budgets and conservative wilderness designations, the world is starting to hold people responsible for their impacts on the places they love.

I think you know that your "Nowhere" statement is well into drama queen and far from reality. I don't see how that can contribute to any positive resolution, do you?

In your own backyard, Yosemite NP has required climbers to carry out for years. Do you think Halfdome is "Nowhere"? National parks that have been doing the same thing include:
Denali
Grand Canyon
Gunnison
Kenai Fjords
Mount Rainer
Rocky Mountain
Yosemite - big wall climbers
Zion - Zion Narrows, climbers

Organizations that are concerned about continuing access and maintaining environment quality for their members are supporting this. That includes the Access Fund and the American Alpine Club. International guiding organizations that recognize the need to protect the places they want to continue to visit such as Alpine Ascents International have supported this around the world. I suppose that this means that people who find environmental responsibility too personally challenging can hire help.

Dale B. Dalrymple