I strongly weigh(ed) in to keep the thread open. It is my beelief that this great collection of intelligence, experience, & and in many cases, wisdom brought from age is too valuable to shut down just because we don't have all the answers, and we cannot convince anyone but ourselves what the solutions are (well, I think that George and I could form "team Krugman"...JUST KIDDING!!! sort of..)

We NEED to bee talking about this and many other issues that will eventually wreck havoc in our lives, whether or not it directly relates to Whitney or hiking( because eventually it will)

The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.