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RP - they ALL tell you they hate scouts? Are you trying to tell me that 100 percent of those you have disussed this with has told you they HATE scouts?


Actually yes. Hate is a strong word perhaps too much so as not all the people I have talked to said they "hate" the scouts although many did but never have I talked to anyone who had anything positive to say.

I think sometimes we have to accept that we can't use the term "a few bad apples" in an organization that is better defended by saying there are "a few good apples". I don't mean to apply this to the scouts because it would be too large of a generalization of an organization I don't know all that much about but since trying to apply it in context of other examples I think it's worth noting.

No need to get so upset either. I value your inputs and experiences to give a better balance for what I have heard.

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DUG - It sounds like you need to introduce to RP some of the folks you know who have some positive scouting stories to tell so his opinion can be more fully balanced between those he's met so far and those he has yet to meet.


Exactly, wrote that above then read this.

Actually though now that I think about it the only person I have talked to that didn't say anything bad about the scouts is my dad. He will tell story after story of like I said the leaders getting drunk and driving crazy and kids passed out on the trail and on and on but he loved it all and stayed in and became an Eagle Scout.

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