OK, so using a real world example--on the one section I timed, on the Bishop Pass Trail, we went from 9900 to 11000' and 2 miles in an hour (or just under). So, using the last formula listed, it would be .6 times 255 times 2 times 1.7 times 1.1 equals 572 calories. That's for me. My daughter was .6 times 106 times 2 times 1.7 times 1.1 equals 238. Does that sound about right? So she's burning less than half the calories I am? She only weighs 91 pounds and her pack is half the weight, so I guess it makes sense.

Also--225 is the weight I've had for about 20 years, and before that it was about 215 for the 6 years before that. I was a college football and track athlete. Still carry a lot of muscle weight, which I understand is not conducive to hiking long distances. I no longer work out with weights (stopped that 15 years ago) but the size is still there.

The daughter and I this past week hiked/climbed 60 miles and 11,000' gain in Yosemite and Bishop areas, camping out 6 nights in our 2 man tent. We went one stretch of 5 days (4 nights) straight, and I was bonking big time I believe from inadequate protein and to a lesser extent calorie intake. The daughter has a severe alergy to all nuts, so we were nutless, so to speak, and we had whey protein and such, to mix with our oatmeal. Not good. Should have had more jerkey.