Wagga,

99.9999% of people survive their stupidity. The problem lies in the survival. Because they survived they become delusional...they did it right and they teach people to do it the same way. Unfortunately, I see it all the time, especially in the winter.

It manifests itself when the survivor teach folks how to go up a high angle icy slope with Microspikes and trekking poles or someone takes pride in completing the 22-miles of a Mt. Whitney day hike on less than two liters of water...then they tell the known universe they can do it, too.

The biggest problem with the other board is you could not criticize the various stupid things that transpired on MMWT. If you can't have back and forth you can't learn.