Fax machine? What's that?

In this day and age of no mo' land line. Yeah, I know you can do it by the internet and request drop box...or just call.

Vivian Creek is the only trail that you cannot self permit. The rest you can.

I like the roads less traveled and the prettier ones. That best describes the west end of the SGW. I did not see anyone on Forsee Creek Trail Saturday...I did not even see anyone footprints attempting to cross the snow at 8,300' to 8,600' to go higher.