Let's just clear a few thngs up here, shall we?

I am NOT "running away" from this BSA bashing board. I am choosing where I spend my time. I have that right don't I? I'm sure that any one of you would leave some place that did not support what you beleived in.

I am NOT being a "wimp" about it. I strongly disagree with almost every part of this worthless thread so I am deciding to limit my replies and possibly my participation on this BSA bashing board.

I damn sure do NOT feel "threatened". At least not by any of the posts or posters here.

I would encourage those who post to only write what they would be willing to say face to face. You'll come off a lot less keyboard commando that way.

The original post was about the tragic deaths of unprepared scouts. Now it's evolved into a BSA bash fest because they won't accept atheists or gays. Here's a newsflash - your AMERICAN military refuses to openly accept gays, but no one wants to stand up and bash the military that is at war.

George has had bad run ins with lying scouts. I have had run ins with worthless, overbearing rangers, but that does NOT in any way reflect poorly on George. I know there are crap rangers out there and I know there are many more good ones. Even some heroic and great ones.

RP says EVERYONE he has ever talked to about Scouts say they HATE them. Um, maybe you should scroll up a few posts - I never said I hate them and you're talking to me. When people start using words like ALL and everyone when it's obvious that's not the case they lose credibility.

I stand firm that I don't want to argue point by point with the BSA bashers here. Not worth my time. I'm not a wimp, I'm not running away and no one here makes me feel threatened. If I take my ball and go elsewhere it's simply because I want to hang out where people don't trash talk what I beleive in.

I'm not some Whitney wanna be who posts and posts and never does anything. 18 summits is more than some people here I would guess. My main trail summit this year I put a Boy Scout, a Venture Scout and two leaders on top and did it SAFELY.

I feel bad when other leaders can't get the job done safely, but even paid guide services get people killed with their screw ups.

If you have first hand knowledge of a screwed up leader - post it up. Don't attack the entire organization because of a few bad apples. BSA is doing a tremendous amount of good in the local communities. Outdoor activities are only 1/4 of what my unit does.

If you want to keep bashing - go for it. I helped earn your freedom to do that. Just don't expect me to stand here getting pissed on while you tell me it's raining.

If you have a comment meant just for me - take it to PM or hook up with me at the WPS for a burger. There won't be any wimp talk there.