No doubt different staff will give you different answers to the same question. We started at 10PM because we were slow. Some are born with fast twitch muscles and some with slow twitch muscles. Mine are no twitch.

Bob Rockwell said that there was at one time a day hike permit with a "moon" stamp on it. It was good from 6PM one day to 6PM the next. It was intended for those who wanted to see sunrise from the summit. I don't hear anything about these. I assume that they are no longer available.