If you were not sucessful in the lottery I think there is still a great chance that you can get a permit. We asked for a group of 10 and 7 of us turned in applications. 5 were successful in getting dates (I was hoping for one and we got five, unbelievable). So I know in April there will be at least 20 spots that will come available for July 6th (two guys got the same day) 10 on July 20 and 10 on Aug 18th.
Good luck!
