ok, great. i really appreciate the pic, and the info. Every time i look at that old army route, my thought is to stay left , and cut up the side of the crevice, since that seems to look like th easiest way, and least steep. I figured it must be tougher than all the pictures have indicated though as you said, thanks.

"With each failure, you take another step towards success as long as you don't ever give up"