Bob W and Bob P:
Dammit! I like you both, and you both have valuable experience to share with less experienced people here.
It ticks me off when anyone here puts down other members, whether you're aiming at each other or at less experienced people.
My "rule of thumb" is: If you can contribute positive things, then post it. If all you have is negative, stay off the keyboard.
You two have lobbed flames at each other. Now stop it. Bob W, I hope you'll stick around.