RenoFrank wrote:
> I've hesitated commenting thinking Steve might address this.

I've been watching the endless debating, too, wishing it would end, not knowing what to write. Bee has hit the nail on the head, saying it way better than I could have.

I would like to underscore this part of Bee's words:
and really does not allow for other conversation to develop.

This forum is here to promote open discussion, especially related to hiking and providing information that is helpful to Mt. Whitney hikers. Arm-wrestling over semantics diminishes the value of what is written in the forum.