Originally Posted By: Ken
The only thing is that other groups in the LA basin have done EXACTLY that:

http://www.sgvtribune.com/environment-an...heastern-county

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residents of 43 cities in southern Los Angeles County.

Four million residents from cities within the Water Replenishment District, from Montebello to Long Beach and Torrance to Cerritos, will have a local, reliable water source to boost well-head supplies. Soon, the WRD will no longer have to buy any water from the Colorado River or the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta in Northern California,


How did they do it? Stormwater capture, water recycling, conservation.

what I find frustrating is engineering types that inhabit water agencies, and elsewhere, that out-of-hand reject innovation and advancement. They are the types that can provide absolute scientific proof, with many references, that bees cannot fly.

Whereas anyone with eyes in their heads knows that she can. smile

South LA basin is doing it right now, and expect to be off distant water in 5 years. Cannot northern LA basin do the same?

http://www.wrd.org/news/water-articles.php?url_nws=water-independence-network

Am I detecting an attitude about engineers, Ken? The very ones who are solving these problems and making this happen? The vast majority of us want to do these kinds of projects, but let's get the facts straight.

It's not that these districts are not importing water. They are just not going to be importing water TO RECHARGE GROUNDWATER. They still import water for direct use. So they are NOT "water independent." Let me say it again, this groundwater recharge FACILITY will not need to import water to percolate into the groundwater, but that's just a drop in the bucket compared to what the district actually uses.

Here's the link again so everyone can see that the total unimpaired runoff for the entire South Coast region of California is 1/2 of the urban water use. That means EVERY DROP of stormwater runoff would have to be captured AND urban water users need to cut their use in half. That's the big picture number that explains how difficult it would be to truly achieve "water independence."

Ken, we're on the same page about moving in this direction, as I've written above, but I think it's counterproductive to misrepresent the true picture.

How would you feel if I started making pie in the sky statements about completely eliminating heart disease and cancer, insult you and all other doctors, but the solution I'm proposing requires doctors. And yes, you do need engineers to make these things happen. And most all of them, especially the younger ones are 110% onboard with making the world a better place.