Steve, he called me mid-afternoon here, so it had to be the 11:00 lottery. They drew 11th of 12, so only one permit left for the last in line.
They're returning by the main trail (Joe wasn't crazy about the idea of down-climbing the F400), so the descent will take longer. With 3 boys in the group, that could speed things up or slow them down. I know he wants to be at the Portal before Doug shuts down the kitchen at 7:30.
