Originally Posted By: AlanK
Originally Posted By: Harvey Lankford
Originally Posted By: AlanK
I always thought that (captain's) name was an obvious alias.


What In The World Happened Here? XXXIII (33)

alias or not, what they claimed then made Mt Whitney part of Virginia

OK, I'll admit that is is the real name of a famous guy. I never knew that he had an Irwin-type incident. Ouch!

Mt. Whitney? LCC-20 came out of Virginia near there. Or are we talking about that tall spot in CA?


Saltydog definitely has the known nautical knowledge of location and what happened, Alan, too, I think.


In 1607, Christopher Newport sailed into Chesapeake Bay, entering Hampton Roads. Upstream on the James River past the future cities of Newport News and Norfolk, they founded the the small settlement of Jamestown, Virginia.(clue: Jimson weed is a corruption of Jamestown) John Smith was one of the leaders, and explored by foot and by shallop. Northward were other rivers on the western side of Chesapeake Bay (clue: note saltydogs west but not coast) ; the York , Piankatank, Rappahannock, and Potomac. The WITWHH 33 picture shows the mouth of the Piankatank River with skinny Stove Point aiming south, Fishing Bay west of it (and marina apparently known to Saltydog) , and Stingray Point aiming east. The town of Deltaville (Saltydog's triangle) is there and recently in 2011 suffered a F2 tornado.

When Captain John Smith was there, he famously (to Virginia schoolchildren ) suffered a stingray injury, hence the name. Neither the stingray nor the wound were as large as the one the Aussie crocodile hunter Steve Irwin mortally suffered.

EXTRA CREDIT: Land claimed in 1609 for England - 200 miles north and 200 miles south of the mouth of Chesapeake Bay and westward all the way to the Pacific. This includes Mt Whitney.

http://www.virginiaplaces.org/boundaries/charters.html
it says
Two years after Jamestown was established and after John Smith had determined the extent of the Chesapeake Bay, King James I adjusted the Virginia Company's grant when he issued a Second Charter. While the 1606 First Charter had limited the London Company's rights to just the land within a 100-by-100 mile square (plus islands within 100 miles offshore from the initial settlement), the 1609 Second Charter granted rights to massive amounts of land stretching all the way across North America from Jamestown to the Pacific Ocean:
"we do also of our special Grace... give, grant and confirm, unto the said Treasurer and Company, and their Successors... all those Lands, Countries, and Territories, situate, lying, and being in that Part of America, called Virginia, from the Point of Land,from the pointe of lande called Cape or Pointe Comfort all alonge the seacoste to the northward two hundred miles and from the said pointe of Cape Comfort all alonge the sea coast to the southward twoe hundred miles; and all that space and circuit of lande lieinge from the sea coaste of the precinct aforesaid upp unto the lande, throughoute, from sea to sea, west and northwest; and also all the island beinge within one hundred miles alonge the coaste of bothe seas of the precincte aforesaid."