Folks! Take a deep breath, and please keep this civil.

Most important, please give each other the benefit of the doubt, and don't make assumptions about what you think someone is saying based on what someone writes. I don't see that happening here. Written communication is notoriously easy to misconstrue. Implying motives based on that is even worse.

Keep in mind that people have widely differing risk comfort zones, experience levels, and preferences in many areas of hiking and the outdoors, including both glissading and doing out-and-back (up-and-down) hikes, etc.

There are many people who hike up and back on all kinds of trails (long and otherwise) myself being one of those, and there are those who do not! So what?? As always, do your homework before you hike, know your limits, and stay within those. Peoples' limits vary greatly. A little respect of each others' differences is very much in order here.

As a housekeeping matter, please keep in mind that a lot of people read these posts. Please write them with that in mind. Each one of us is the "face" of this message board.

Thanks.

CaT


If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracle of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it.
- Lyndon Johnson, on signing the Wilderness Act into law (1964)