DUG: Very interesting reading! I remember you wrote/refered to another article about a visit to a site where two F-14s hit during training and crashed? Curious!
Yeah, we do some wreck chasing. It's a nice fit with hiking. The Gambler's wreck interested me because it's hard to get to. Took me 3 years of research and 2 attempts.
The main part of the F4 wrecks are easy. The really good stuff is hard to get to. I was lucky to be guided in by one of the best.
Now I want to take a different route into the Gambler's wreck and bring my son. He was on the failed attempt (100% my route finding that screwed us) but had to miss the 2nd try because of school.
I have tons of pics and stuff up on my photo page. Can't help you with maps or directions though - wreck hunting isn't like hiking in that respect.

I can take you to the F4 easy stuff if you like.........................DUG